Hitting a Wall
So my last post described how well things were going for me up to $100NL and that I was going to play $200NL while multitabling. I decided to only 8-table and see how things went. They did not go well. Actually I am up about $450 after about 10k hands (a very non-impressive win) and the games still aren't that tough, I think i'm just running into some bad luck.
Let's delve into my pokertracker database and look at a bunch of hands where I got stacked.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with 4d 4h
UTG raises to $4, 4 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: Qc 4s 5s ($16, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $16, Hero raises to $48, 2 folds, UTG calls.
Turn: 3h ($112, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $88, UTG calls.
River: Js ($288, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero is all-in $151.4, UTG calls all-in $119.6.
Uncalled bets: $31.8 returned to Hero.
Results:
Final pot: $527.2
Hero showed 4d 4h
UTG showed As Ks
I still don't hate betting the river here. He put about 40% of his remaining stack in on the turn with just the flush outs, so I still make a ton of money even if I stack off every time he hits the flush. He has AA/KK most of the time here anyway after playing the hand this way, which is what I expected to see when he called the river.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with Qh Qc
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds.
Flop: 3h 3c 4d ($27, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $22, UTG+1 calls.
Turn: 6h ($71, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.
River: 3s ($71, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $40, Hero raises to $140, UTG+1 raises all-in $212.2, Hero calls.
Results:
Final pot: $495.4
UTG+1 showed 4s 4c
Hero mucks Qh Qc
Here I was planning on just calling the river until the 3rd 3 hit the river (which gives me a good chance to get paid off by 77-JJ). Obviously I hated my hand when he 3bet the river, but I couldn't find a fold getting 5:1.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with Tc Ts
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.
Flop: Th 9s 6h ($30, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $26, Button calls, BB raises to $65, Hero raises all-in $233.5, Button folds, BB calls all-in $161.6.
Uncalled bets: $6.9 returned to Hero.
Turn: 7c ($308.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $509.2)
River: Jh ($308.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $509.2)
Results:
Final pot: $308.6
BB showed 8h 7h
Hero showed Tc Ts
Flopped straight vs. flopped top set. Standard.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with Kc Ks
UTG raises to $4, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $36, UTG calls, 2 folds.
Flop: 9d 2d 5d ($81, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $483.25, UTG calls all-in $188.3.
Uncalled bets: $294.95 returned to Hero.
Turn: Qd ($457.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $457.6)
River: 5h ($457.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $457.6)
Results:
Final pot: $457.6
Hero showed Kc Ks
UTG showed Qh Qs
This is just such a gross flop call on his part. He's a 9:1 dog against my actual hand and about a 13:1 dog against my range {KK+} on this flop. Obviously I'm happy he did it and I expected him to do it, it's just the suck when he gets there.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with 6s 7s
UTG+1 raises to $7, 4 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.
Flop: As Js Ks ($21, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, UTG+1 raises to $75, SB raises all-in $91, Hero raises all-in $357, UTG+1 calls all-in $131.2.
Uncalled bets: $150.8 returned to Hero.
Turn: Jh ($560, 1 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $294, Sidepot 1: $230.4, Sidepot 2: $35.6)
River: 7c ($560, 1 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $294, Sidepot 1: $230.4, Sidepot 2: $35.6)
Results:
Final pot: $560
UTG+1 showed Kh Kc
SB showed Ts Ac
Hero showed 6s 7s
Flush vs. set vs. TP+str8flush draw and flush doesn't hold up. Standard.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with As Ac
2 folds, MP1 raises to $7, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $31, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.
Flop: Jd 8c 7d ($72, 2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $58, MP1 raises to $125, Hero raises to $250, MP1 calls all-in $50.65.
Uncalled bets: $74.35 returned to Hero.
Turn: 4s ($423.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $423.3)
River: Kh ($423.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $423.3)
Results:
Final pot: $423.3
MP1 showed 9c Tc
Hero showed As Ac
Obviously it is pretty poor play on his part to put 15% of his stack in preflop with 9Ts, but I still need to fold when I get check-raised on this flop. This fold is about as easy as they come, but I was tilting like a motherfucker.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with Ac Ah
3 folds, MP2 raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero raises to $30, MP2 raises to $106, Hero raises all-in $211.5, MP2 calls all-in $105.55.
Uncalled bets: $105.55 returned to MP2.
Flop: Kh 9s 2c ($213.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $424)
Turn: Jd ($213.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $424)
River: 5d ($213.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $424)
Results:
Final pot: $213.55
Hero showed Ac Ah
MP2 showed Kd Kc
Losing AA vs. KK all in preflop. Standard.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2s 2d
UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, MP1 calls, MP2 raises to $16, 4 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: Th 6c 2h ($51, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $8, Hero raises to $60, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
Turn: 5c ($171, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $124, MP2 calls.
River: 8d ($419, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $419)
Results:
Final pot: $419
Hero showed 2s 2d
MP2 showed Tc Td
Set over set. This one sucks because this guy is probably one of the biggest donk regulars in the 1/2 games on full tilt.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with 3s 3d
Hero raises to $6, 5 folds, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop: 4c 3c Qd ($14, 2 players)
Hero bets $10, SB raises to $35, Hero raises all-in $475.9, SB calls all-in $155.65.
Uncalled bets: $285.25 returned to Hero.
Turn: 6h ($395.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $395.3)
River: Th ($395.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $395.3)
Results:
Final pot: $395.3
SB showed Qh Qc
Hero showed 3s 3d
Another set over set. I was actually seriously considering folding bottom set here since this guy is a ridiculous tightwad. But I'm still pretty sure he can have like AcQc or KcQc here also.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with Kh Kc
2 folds, MP1 raises to $8, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $32, 4 folds, MP1 raises all-in $197, Hero calls.
Flop: Th 6s 7c ($397, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $397)
Turn: Ah ($397, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $397)
River: 3c ($397, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $397)
Results:
Final pot: $397
MP1 showed Kd Ad
Hero showed Kh Kc
In preflop with KK vs. AKs and lose. I guess I can't really complain, since this guy ended up donating me a bunch of money later. I think I stacked him 3 times, once by getting allin preflop with AA vs. 43s.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with Ad Ac
Hero calls, 5 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB raises to $9, Hero raises to $33, 2 folds, BB calls.
Flop: 7s 2h Qh ($70, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
Turn: 8c ($70, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $40, BB raises all-in $161, Hero calls.
River: 8s ($392, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $392)
Results:
Final pot: $392
BB showed Qs Qc
Hero showed Ad Ac
Here a guy puts in 1/6 of his stack preflop and beats me with a set. Nothing crazy here.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with Th Td
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: Ts 8c 7c ($50, 4 players)
SB bets $30, Hero raises to $90, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, SB calls.
Turn: Kd ($320, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero is all-in $147.4, MP2 folds, SB calls all-in $33.9.
Uncalled bets: $113.5 returned to Hero.
River: 9s ($387.8, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $387.8)
Results:
Final pot: $387.8
SB showed Kc Jc
Hero showed Th Td
Top set gets beat by flush draw + gutshot.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
7 players
Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is CO with Ah Ad
2 folds, MP1 raises to $4, Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, BB calls, MP1 folds.
Flop: Qs 4d Ac ($35, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $26, BB raises to $52, Hero calls.
Turn: 3h ($139, 2 players)
BB is all-in $49, Hero calls.
River: Qc ($237, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $237)
Results:
Final pot: $237
Hero showed Ah Ad
BB showed Qh Qd
This hand hurt. This is the hand that sent me spiraling into the tilt that cause me to get in with AA vs. 9T on a 78J flop (shown above).
So this is how things have been going. My "bankroll" in full tilt is currently at about $4400, and I will probably shrink it pretty soon since I have to use it to pay some bills and stuff.
Oh yea, did I mention that I've been supporting myself+wife with poker for like the last 5 months or so? Well I have, and its working out well. I don't want my wife to have to work (although she does play some poker also, like a couple thousand hands of $25NL every week), and poker is the only way to make this happen while I'm still in school.
With the full tilt bankroll shrinking, I'll probably go back to playing $100NL for a little while until I have $4k in my full tilt account again. But I won't be playing much or at all in the next week since I have a big exam coming up in school. I'll post again in a couple of weeks.
Let's delve into my pokertracker database and look at a bunch of hands where I got stacked.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with 4d 4h
UTG raises to $4, 4 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: Qc 4s 5s ($16, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $16, Hero raises to $48, 2 folds, UTG calls.
Turn: 3h ($112, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $88, UTG calls.
River: Js ($288, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero is all-in $151.4, UTG calls all-in $119.6.
Uncalled bets: $31.8 returned to Hero.
Results:
Final pot: $527.2
Hero showed 4d 4h
UTG showed As Ks
I still don't hate betting the river here. He put about 40% of his remaining stack in on the turn with just the flush outs, so I still make a ton of money even if I stack off every time he hits the flush. He has AA/KK most of the time here anyway after playing the hand this way, which is what I expected to see when he called the river.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with Qh Qc
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds.
Flop: 3h 3c 4d ($27, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $22, UTG+1 calls.
Turn: 6h ($71, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.
River: 3s ($71, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $40, Hero raises to $140, UTG+1 raises all-in $212.2, Hero calls.
Results:
Final pot: $495.4
UTG+1 showed 4s 4c
Hero mucks Qh Qc
Here I was planning on just calling the river until the 3rd 3 hit the river (which gives me a good chance to get paid off by 77-JJ). Obviously I hated my hand when he 3bet the river, but I couldn't find a fold getting 5:1.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with Tc Ts
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.
Flop: Th 9s 6h ($30, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $26, Button calls, BB raises to $65, Hero raises all-in $233.5, Button folds, BB calls all-in $161.6.
Uncalled bets: $6.9 returned to Hero.
Turn: 7c ($308.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $509.2)
River: Jh ($308.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $509.2)
Results:
Final pot: $308.6
BB showed 8h 7h
Hero showed Tc Ts
Flopped straight vs. flopped top set. Standard.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with Kc Ks
UTG raises to $4, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $36, UTG calls, 2 folds.
Flop: 9d 2d 5d ($81, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $483.25, UTG calls all-in $188.3.
Uncalled bets: $294.95 returned to Hero.
Turn: Qd ($457.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $457.6)
River: 5h ($457.6, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $457.6)
Results:
Final pot: $457.6
Hero showed Kc Ks
UTG showed Qh Qs
This is just such a gross flop call on his part. He's a 9:1 dog against my actual hand and about a 13:1 dog against my range {KK+} on this flop. Obviously I'm happy he did it and I expected him to do it, it's just the suck when he gets there.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with 6s 7s
UTG+1 raises to $7, 4 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.
Flop: As Js Ks ($21, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, UTG+1 raises to $75, SB raises all-in $91, Hero raises all-in $357, UTG+1 calls all-in $131.2.
Uncalled bets: $150.8 returned to Hero.
Turn: Jh ($560, 1 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $294, Sidepot 1: $230.4, Sidepot 2: $35.6)
River: 7c ($560, 1 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $294, Sidepot 1: $230.4, Sidepot 2: $35.6)
Results:
Final pot: $560
UTG+1 showed Kh Kc
SB showed Ts Ac
Hero showed 6s 7s
Flush vs. set vs. TP+str8flush draw and flush doesn't hold up. Standard.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with As Ac
2 folds, MP1 raises to $7, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $31, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.
Flop: Jd 8c 7d ($72, 2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $58, MP1 raises to $125, Hero raises to $250, MP1 calls all-in $50.65.
Uncalled bets: $74.35 returned to Hero.
Turn: 4s ($423.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $423.3)
River: Kh ($423.3, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $423.3)
Results:
Final pot: $423.3
MP1 showed 9c Tc
Hero showed As Ac
Obviously it is pretty poor play on his part to put 15% of his stack in preflop with 9Ts, but I still need to fold when I get check-raised on this flop. This fold is about as easy as they come, but I was tilting like a motherfucker.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with Ac Ah
3 folds, MP2 raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero raises to $30, MP2 raises to $106, Hero raises all-in $211.5, MP2 calls all-in $105.55.
Uncalled bets: $105.55 returned to MP2.
Flop: Kh 9s 2c ($213.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $424)
Turn: Jd ($213.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $424)
River: 5d ($213.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $424)
Results:
Final pot: $213.55
Hero showed Ac Ah
MP2 showed Kd Kc
Losing AA vs. KK all in preflop. Standard.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2s 2d
UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, MP1 calls, MP2 raises to $16, 4 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.
Flop: Th 6c 2h ($51, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $8, Hero raises to $60, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
Turn: 5c ($171, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $124, MP2 calls.
River: 8d ($419, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $419)
Results:
Final pot: $419
Hero showed 2s 2d
MP2 showed Tc Td
Set over set. This one sucks because this guy is probably one of the biggest donk regulars in the 1/2 games on full tilt.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with 3s 3d
Hero raises to $6, 5 folds, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop: 4c 3c Qd ($14, 2 players)
Hero bets $10, SB raises to $35, Hero raises all-in $475.9, SB calls all-in $155.65.
Uncalled bets: $285.25 returned to Hero.
Turn: 6h ($395.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $395.3)
River: Th ($395.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $395.3)
Results:
Final pot: $395.3
SB showed Qh Qc
Hero showed 3s 3d
Another set over set. I was actually seriously considering folding bottom set here since this guy is a ridiculous tightwad. But I'm still pretty sure he can have like AcQc or KcQc here also.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with Kh Kc
2 folds, MP1 raises to $8, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $32, 4 folds, MP1 raises all-in $197, Hero calls.
Flop: Th 6s 7c ($397, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $397)
Turn: Ah ($397, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $397)
River: 3c ($397, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $397)
Results:
Final pot: $397
MP1 showed Kd Ad
Hero showed Kh Kc
In preflop with KK vs. AKs and lose. I guess I can't really complain, since this guy ended up donating me a bunch of money later. I think I stacked him 3 times, once by getting allin preflop with AA vs. 43s.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
9 players
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with Ad Ac
Hero calls, 5 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB raises to $9, Hero raises to $33, 2 folds, BB calls.
Flop: 7s 2h Qh ($70, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
Turn: 8c ($70, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $40, BB raises all-in $161, Hero calls.
River: 8s ($392, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $392)
Results:
Final pot: $392
BB showed Qs Qc
Hero showed Ad Ac
Here a guy puts in 1/6 of his stack preflop and beats me with a set. Nothing crazy here.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with Th Td
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: Ts 8c 7c ($50, 4 players)
SB bets $30, Hero raises to $90, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, SB calls.
Turn: Kd ($320, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero is all-in $147.4, MP2 folds, SB calls all-in $33.9.
Uncalled bets: $113.5 returned to Hero.
River: 9s ($387.8, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $387.8)
Results:
Final pot: $387.8
SB showed Kc Jc
Hero showed Th Td
Top set gets beat by flush draw + gutshot.
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
7 players
Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is CO with Ah Ad
2 folds, MP1 raises to $4, Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, BB calls, MP1 folds.
Flop: Qs 4d Ac ($35, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $26, BB raises to $52, Hero calls.
Turn: 3h ($139, 2 players)
BB is all-in $49, Hero calls.
River: Qc ($237, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $237)
Results:
Final pot: $237
Hero showed Ah Ad
BB showed Qh Qd
This hand hurt. This is the hand that sent me spiraling into the tilt that cause me to get in with AA vs. 9T on a 78J flop (shown above).
So this is how things have been going. My "bankroll" in full tilt is currently at about $4400, and I will probably shrink it pretty soon since I have to use it to pay some bills and stuff.
Oh yea, did I mention that I've been supporting myself+wife with poker for like the last 5 months or so? Well I have, and its working out well. I don't want my wife to have to work (although she does play some poker also, like a couple thousand hands of $25NL every week), and poker is the only way to make this happen while I'm still in school.
With the full tilt bankroll shrinking, I'll probably go back to playing $100NL for a little while until I have $4k in my full tilt account again. But I won't be playing much or at all in the next week since I have a big exam coming up in school. I'll post again in a couple of weeks.
posted by the_real_zano at 11:29 AM
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