Clearing a Bonus, plus some Tourneys
Played a bunch of poker today, and I will probably play some more. I'm trying to clear a bonus on Party and it's taking forever. I gotta finish it because it's like a challenge now, but never again! I'll give you a partial tournament rundown and a funny $3/$6 hand from today.
1) $10+1 Multi on Party -- never really got anything going in this. Got 20BBs in with JJ against the AA of an active player.
2) $20+2 Satellite to $500K on Party -- got to the final few tables but never really had any chips. I lost when I jammed for 9BBs from MP with 55 and the button had KK.
3) $10+1 Multi on Stars -- I doubled up pretty early with AKo vs. ATs, but then lost most of my newly found chips with I got a guy hit a straight on me with 78s on a 49T5J board (I had A9). I was sorta pissed that he was drawing at the idiot straight, but it's so well disguised when it gets there, maybe it's a decent draw after all. I got my last 15BBs in with AKo vs. 99 and lost.
4) $20+2 Limit Multi on Party -- I lost my chips when I flopped an A out of the BB with A7, bet the flop, then the guy who limped UTG with 99 caught his 9 on the turn.
5) $20+2, $40K Gtd. on Party -- lost a bunch of chips when I raised a limper with AQo, he calls, jams for a ton of money on an AdKd6d flop and shows up with AKs. Apparently I just have no idea what people are doing sometimes. I lost the rest of my chips with I jammed for 7BBs from the CO with AJo and the big blind had AK.
6) $10+1, $20K Gtd. no Party -- I got 41st/2235 in this thing for some $70. I got a big stack together with around 200 left, but then lost a ~500K pot (average was about 175K) with about 45 left with AKs vs. AA. Some guy says "that'll teach you for being a bully." after I lose the pot. Obviously I'm happy to get my money in there, but it sucks to not be able to backtalk someone who says something that dumb. Yea, I could try to explain things like fold equity and hand ranges to the guy, but who wants to help their opponents? I'm pretty happy with how I was playing. Without this roadblock I woulda been golden to go really deep.
7) $10+R, $55K Gtd. on Stars -- For some reason I swore to only do one rebuy and one addon (if I got that far) in this thing. I rebought right away and got my 3K in after a few minutes with TT vs. AJo vs. A9o and they both flopped the A, so that was it.
Alright, some entertaining hands. In this first one, the min-betting guy is the same guy who knocked me out of the Party $20K with the AA.
NL Texas Hold'em Level:14 Blinds-Antes(3000/6000-100)
Table $20K Gtd.(664979) Table #4 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: theJig0007 ( $37168 )
Seat 2: SutchaPlayer ( $59880 )
Seat 3: duncan01 ( $186341 )
Seat 5: Mike_4978 ( $194971 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $118850 )
Seat 8: jammm123 ( $148706 )
Seat 9: heyimpat ( $34303 )
Seat 10: reddneckin11 ( $17746 )
Seat 4: hesuskhristo ( $98847 )
Seat 7: Hbomb30 ( $59628 )
Trny:22321704 Level:14
Blinds-Antes(3000/6000-100)
theJig0007 posts ante [100].
SutchaPlayer posts ante [100].
duncan01 posts ante [100].
hesuskhristo posts ante [100].
Mike_4978 posts ante [100].
Hero posts ante [100].
Hbomb30 posts ante [100].
jammm123 posts ante [100].
heyimpat posts ante [100].
reddneckin11 posts ante [100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kd 3h ]
Hbomb30 folds.
jammm123 folds.
heyimpat folds.
reddneckin11 folds.
theJig0007 calls [6000].
SutchaPlayer folds.
duncan01 folds.
hesuskhristo folds.
Mike_4978 raises [9000].
Hero folds.
theJig0007 calls [6000].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, Ac, 7h ]
Mike_4978 bets [6000].
theJig0007 calls [6000].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
Mike_4978 bets [6000].
theJig0007 calls [6000].
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
Mike_4978 checks.
theJig0007 bets [7473].
hesuskhristo: haha
Mike_4978 calls [7473].
theJig0007 shows [ Ah, 5h ] two pairs, aces and fives.
Mike_4978 doesn't show [ 5c, 4d ] a pair of fives.
theJig0007 wins 69946 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and fives.
Good work buddy. Let's look at our goals of what we want to do during a hand of tournament poker --
1) Get ourselves out of position and heads up with small, unsuited connecting cards when our potential opponent has already limped in for 1/6 of his chips.
2) Double up a shortstack without ever putting him to a decision.
3) Calling the river with 5th pair on a coordinated board when it's virtually impossible for our opponent to be bluffing.
Done, done, and done. Why does it have to be THIS guy who shows up with AA against my AKs? Life is just unfair sometimes.
Now we go on to a $3/$6 hand. I don't know why I find this so entertaining, but I just picture a baboon sitting there behind a computer hitting the "Bet" button on the river. I just don't see any other way that it could happen...
$3/$6 Texas Hold'em
Table Trout Time (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: gundum0307 ( $133.65 )
Seat 2: therzner ( $114.45 )
Seat 4: stybro ( $112 )
Seat 6: grindert100 ( $252.50 )
Seat 5: Hero ( $127 )
Seat 3: GRod321 ( $115.50 )
gundum0307 posts small blind [$1].
therzner posts big blind [$3].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9h Jh ]
GRod321 folds.
stybro calls [$3].
Hero raises [$6].
grindert100 folds.
gundum0307 calls [$5].
therzner calls [$3].
stybro calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Jd, Kd ]
gundum0307 bets [$3].
therzner calls [$3].
stybro calls [$3].
Hero raises [$6].
gundum0307 calls [$3].
therzner calls [$3].
stybro calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
gundum0307 bets [$6].
therzner folds.
stybro folds.
Hero raises [$12].
gundum0307 calls [$6].
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
gundum0307 bets [$6].
Hero calls [$6].
gundum0307 shows [ 3d, 3c ] a pair of threes.
Hero shows [ 9h, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and nines.
Hero wins $81 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and nines.
Did I miss a bet on the river?
1) $10+1 Multi on Party -- never really got anything going in this. Got 20BBs in with JJ against the AA of an active player.
2) $20+2 Satellite to $500K on Party -- got to the final few tables but never really had any chips. I lost when I jammed for 9BBs from MP with 55 and the button had KK.
3) $10+1 Multi on Stars -- I doubled up pretty early with AKo vs. ATs, but then lost most of my newly found chips with I got a guy hit a straight on me with 78s on a 49T5J board (I had A9). I was sorta pissed that he was drawing at the idiot straight, but it's so well disguised when it gets there, maybe it's a decent draw after all. I got my last 15BBs in with AKo vs. 99 and lost.
4) $20+2 Limit Multi on Party -- I lost my chips when I flopped an A out of the BB with A7, bet the flop, then the guy who limped UTG with 99 caught his 9 on the turn.
5) $20+2, $40K Gtd. on Party -- lost a bunch of chips when I raised a limper with AQo, he calls, jams for a ton of money on an AdKd6d flop and shows up with AKs. Apparently I just have no idea what people are doing sometimes. I lost the rest of my chips with I jammed for 7BBs from the CO with AJo and the big blind had AK.
6) $10+1, $20K Gtd. no Party -- I got 41st/2235 in this thing for some $70. I got a big stack together with around 200 left, but then lost a ~500K pot (average was about 175K) with about 45 left with AKs vs. AA. Some guy says "that'll teach you for being a bully." after I lose the pot. Obviously I'm happy to get my money in there, but it sucks to not be able to backtalk someone who says something that dumb. Yea, I could try to explain things like fold equity and hand ranges to the guy, but who wants to help their opponents? I'm pretty happy with how I was playing. Without this roadblock I woulda been golden to go really deep.
7) $10+R, $55K Gtd. on Stars -- For some reason I swore to only do one rebuy and one addon (if I got that far) in this thing. I rebought right away and got my 3K in after a few minutes with TT vs. AJo vs. A9o and they both flopped the A, so that was it.
Alright, some entertaining hands. In this first one, the min-betting guy is the same guy who knocked me out of the Party $20K with the AA.
NL Texas Hold'em Level:14 Blinds-Antes(3000/6000-100)
Table $20K Gtd.(664979) Table #4 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: theJig0007 ( $37168 )
Seat 2: SutchaPlayer ( $59880 )
Seat 3: duncan01 ( $186341 )
Seat 5: Mike_4978 ( $194971 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $118850 )
Seat 8: jammm123 ( $148706 )
Seat 9: heyimpat ( $34303 )
Seat 10: reddneckin11 ( $17746 )
Seat 4: hesuskhristo ( $98847 )
Seat 7: Hbomb30 ( $59628 )
Trny:22321704 Level:14
Blinds-Antes(3000/6000-100)
theJig0007 posts ante [100].
SutchaPlayer posts ante [100].
duncan01 posts ante [100].
hesuskhristo posts ante [100].
Mike_4978 posts ante [100].
Hero posts ante [100].
Hbomb30 posts ante [100].
jammm123 posts ante [100].
heyimpat posts ante [100].
reddneckin11 posts ante [100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kd 3h ]
Hbomb30 folds.
jammm123 folds.
heyimpat folds.
reddneckin11 folds.
theJig0007 calls [6000].
SutchaPlayer folds.
duncan01 folds.
hesuskhristo folds.
Mike_4978 raises [9000].
Hero folds.
theJig0007 calls [6000].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, Ac, 7h ]
Mike_4978 bets [6000].
theJig0007 calls [6000].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
Mike_4978 bets [6000].
theJig0007 calls [6000].
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
Mike_4978 checks.
theJig0007 bets [7473].
hesuskhristo: haha
Mike_4978 calls [7473].
theJig0007 shows [ Ah, 5h ] two pairs, aces and fives.
Mike_4978 doesn't show [ 5c, 4d ] a pair of fives.
theJig0007 wins 69946 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and fives.
Good work buddy. Let's look at our goals of what we want to do during a hand of tournament poker --
1) Get ourselves out of position and heads up with small, unsuited connecting cards when our potential opponent has already limped in for 1/6 of his chips.
2) Double up a shortstack without ever putting him to a decision.
3) Calling the river with 5th pair on a coordinated board when it's virtually impossible for our opponent to be bluffing.
Done, done, and done. Why does it have to be THIS guy who shows up with AA against my AKs? Life is just unfair sometimes.
Now we go on to a $3/$6 hand. I don't know why I find this so entertaining, but I just picture a baboon sitting there behind a computer hitting the "Bet" button on the river. I just don't see any other way that it could happen...
$3/$6 Texas Hold'em
Table Trout Time (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: gundum0307 ( $133.65 )
Seat 2: therzner ( $114.45 )
Seat 4: stybro ( $112 )
Seat 6: grindert100 ( $252.50 )
Seat 5: Hero ( $127 )
Seat 3: GRod321 ( $115.50 )
gundum0307 posts small blind [$1].
therzner posts big blind [$3].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9h Jh ]
GRod321 folds.
stybro calls [$3].
Hero raises [$6].
grindert100 folds.
gundum0307 calls [$5].
therzner calls [$3].
stybro calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Jd, Kd ]
gundum0307 bets [$3].
therzner calls [$3].
stybro calls [$3].
Hero raises [$6].
gundum0307 calls [$3].
therzner calls [$3].
stybro calls [$3].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
gundum0307 bets [$6].
therzner folds.
stybro folds.
Hero raises [$12].
gundum0307 calls [$6].
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
gundum0307 bets [$6].
Hero calls [$6].
gundum0307 shows [ 3d, 3c ] a pair of threes.
Hero shows [ 9h, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and nines.
Hero wins $81 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and nines.
Did I miss a bet on the river?
posted by the_real_zano at 7:38 PM
2 Comments:
did you miss a bet? my initial thoughts and then my final thoughts.
Initial thought: Yes, you missed a bet. Obviously you already perform this analysis during and after the hand, but here's how I see it; this guys possible starting hands that caused him to call from the small blind and then lead out every street after that, but then only call after you raise: 88 or 1010 (that's about all I can think of bearing in mind I have little knowledge of the 6 max game). Can't think of any other hand that would induce his behavior. i.e. you clearly have him beat and need to keep getting free money from him.
Re-reading the hand I rethink it: His possible starting hands are huge. In the small blind he could have any two cards and be willing to see what happens. Possible starting hands that beat you are many; KJ, Q10, K9, any two diamonds. If I picked one without seeing the outcome I would say he had Ad10d. This would explain betting with all the draws he has as he could make a big pot to keep you in if his card does come, or it could win it right out (always a good thing when on a draw). Then only calling the raise is obvious he doesn't want to get too much money in on a draw. (His call on your raised 4th street is obviously a bluff to get you to think he is weak since he just nailed the nuts). Therefore, I agree with a call at the end on your part...the math might not agree due to his range but with only 30 seconds to act, i think you made the right choice.
Of course it turns out the guy is just your typical moron and had pocket 3's but that's been made fun of enough and we don't need to get into it. Adios
I was pretty new to the table, so I was sort of assuming that this guy wasn't totally incompetent. I was wrong.
If I'm playing against anyone but a total retard, I pretty much agree with your final thoughts here. This is a pretty scary board for two pair, and the typical player shows up with either a complete hand (a straght or flush) or something incredibly weak (like 33 or a missed draw) after playing the hand this way. And I don't really want to raise these hands because he'll either 3-bet if he has me beat or fold if he's weak. In other words, I'm not gaining anything by raising if I'm ahead but I'm losing more if I'm behind.
After playing with this guy for a little while, I figured out that he is a total dope who bets any kind of hand all the time no matter how obivously he's beat. Knowing that, I definitely would have raised for value and been called by his 33 (trust me, he woulda called).
It just goes to show -- you gotta know your opponents.
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